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Solutions to the illegal immigration crisis
http://www.examiner.com/x-5919-Norfolk-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d2-Solutions-to-the-illegal-immigration-crisis
July 2, 5:16 AM
There are a few, painfully simple measures we could take to stop the current invasion and expel those who have no respect for our borders, nor for our citizens. Truthfully, if any combination or even one of the following actions were taken by our federal government, most illegal aliens in this country would leave, effectively deporting themselves.
1) Place the military on the border.
Rather than sending a few hundred National Guardsmen to the 2,000 mile-long border under orders to never stop anyone entering this country illegally, the way President George Bush did, if say 20,000 troops along with their tanks, helicopters, and U.S. Air Force over flights were utilized along the border (the same way we do for other countries), illegal entries would come to a screeching halt.
We could simply take the troops from Germany, where 30,000 U.S. troops are stationed or any number of other locations around the world and use our military to protect our border!
The Mexican border could and should be made a permanent duty station. This would allow the Border Patrol to full staff the official entry checkpoints which would greatly reduce the amount of drugs and criminals coming into this country.
2) Prison sentences for CEO’s who hire illegal aliens.
Whether it is a landscaping company run-out of someone’s den in Cicero, IL; a 30-unit independent hotel in Virginia Beach, VA; or a corporate giant such as Tyson Foods Inc., once caught with illegal aliens in their employ, the head of that company should spend the next ten years of their life in prison.
Additionally, a percentage of that company’s profits commensurate to the percentage of their employees who are illegal aliens should be seized.
3) Cut off all federal funds to cities which continue or adopt ‘sanctuary policies’ for illegal aliens.
If a city such as Chicago, IL which has such a policy in place, refuses to cooperate with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement by not allowing police officers to inquire into, nor report the immigration status of arrestees, shielding criminal aliens from notification and eventual deportation, their funds will be immediately suspended. No more federal money for roads, schools, no special grants, no construction projects funded with federal money…Nothing.
Only once all municipal agencies in that city are found to be in compliance, will federal funds be restored.
4) Require anyone registering a child in a public school to provide proof of U.S. citizenship.
Illegal aliens have been getting a free education for their children on the backs of American taxpayers for far too long. The practice has led to overcrowded classrooms, and ‘English as a second language’ courses in all of the border states.
The amount of money spent per child in public school annually varies from state to state, as well as district to district. However, it averages several thousands of dollars per child. Why should American taxpayers be subsidizing the families of illegal aliens?
If parents were required to provide proof of citizenship to register the child, many illegal aliens would simply leave the country. You take away the things that draw them here and most will deport themselves.
The state of California is now bankrupt largely due to years of allowing Mexicans to illegally move their families to the state. Overwhelmed with Spanish-only speaking children, they can no longer provide a decent education for American children.
5) Begin mass deportations.
Again, if you take away the goodies (jobs, free education, in-state college tuition, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.), most will return to Mexico on their own. However, there will remain a number of Mexican nationals who will refuse to leave, a great many of them will be hardcore criminals (gang bangers, drug dealers, etc.). These human predators will only return home, if forcibly removed.
We have heard so many times that it is “impossible to deport 12 million people.” First, the number of illegal aliens in this country is closer to 40 million, second, nothing is impossible.
As I said, most will leave after they are denied the services which they now steal with ease. The rest would be deported upon arrest for other crimes.
This is the same nation which defeated both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. This is the same nation which invented the airplane and the telephone. And, this is the same nation that can do anything which we choose to do.
We have the infrastructure, resources, and the right to deport as many illegal aliens from this nation as we want. The only thing we are lacking is a federal government with the courage to do it. We must change that and take back this great country.
If we do not, future generations of Americans will reside in a Third World nation, and it will be a mirro
How is this for good news Beach system for illegal workers would affect about 175 vendors we making progress?
In about a week, Beach officials will be given the authority to audit new contractors to ensure they don’t hire illegal workers. But many of the details – including under what circumstances an investigation would be launched and what documents city officials will use to verify immigration status – remain unclear.
"It’s not mapped out exactly how we would do it," City Attorney Les Lilley said.
The audits are part of guidelines announced by Beach officials and approved by the City Council last week. Vendors also will have to certify that they don’t hire illegal immigrants.
The clauses will be included in all new city contracts for more than ,000 and will affect about 175 vendors who perform construction, software development, janitorial and landscape management work for Virginia Beach.
The city has standards in place to deal with issues such as vendor complaints about the bidding process, but not immigration, said Joanne Griggs, Virginia Beach’s auditor.
"This is new territory," Griggs said. "I would want to make sure that we have a very tight process so the outcome is fair to any individual living and working in this city."
Depending on the procedures, the city’s four auditors might need some additional resources and training, Griggs said.
This is the second policy targeting illegal immigration that Virginia Beach has adopted since two teens were killed last spring by a drunken driver who was an illegal immigrant. The case drew national media attention, and anti-illegal-immigration advocacy groups pressed city officials for action.
In May, police officers began asking everybody they arrested whether they were in the country legally.
Virginia Beach Sheriff Paul Lanteigne said the new policy might be the reason for the increasing number of illegal immigrants in the city’s jail. In May, the jail housed 23 illegal immigrants; by October there were 72 illegal immigrants reported, Lanteigne said.
Alicia Fernandez-Bobulinski, director of Hispanic outreach for the Making a Difference Foundation, said she has heard that officers are asking immigration status questions prior to making an arrest, in instances such as traffic stops.
"Faith is being lost," Fernandez-Bobulinski said. "The administration is saying one thing, and another thing is happening on the street."
http://hamptonroads.com/2008/01/beach-system-illegal-workers-would-affect-about-175-vendors
How about THIS for good news? Can we say ADIOS illegals!?
Border law gets Bush’s signature
President pushes for GOP during Phoenix-area stop
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 10.05.2006
advertisementBy Daniel Scarpinato
PARADISE VALLEY — President Bush signed federal legislation here Wednesday that he says will help "protect the American people," in part, by tightening security on the U.S.-Mexican border.
The bill appropriates money to the Department of Homeland Security in a number of areas, but Bush’s Arizona signing was meant to highlight its most high-profile element: illegal immigration.
Bush signed the bill shortly after telling those at a 0-a-person fundraiser, "If you want to make sure those on the front line of protecting you have the tools necessary to do so, you vote Republican for the safety of the United States of America." The fundraiser for Republican Rep. Rick Renzi took in 0,000.
The president accused some Democrats of putting national security at risk by voting against bills that would allow secret eavesdropping on phone calls and tough measures to interrogate prisoners to try to detect terror plots.
Democrats said Bush was just trying to distract from his failed management of the war on terror with his comments.
The border-security legislation, approved last month, provides .2 billion to fund 700 miles of fencing and barriers along the border, plus money for jails to detain illegal entrants and hire 1,500 more border agents.
"This legislation will give us better tools to enforce our immigration laws and to secure our southern border," he said. "This bill’s going to make this country safer to all of our citizens."
With immigration the top issue for voters in Southern Arizona and high on the radar for voters nationally, the bill comes as the November midterm elections draw near.
"I understand full well that illegal immigration puts pressure on the public schools and hospitals," he said. "It strains state and local budgets. In some communities it increases crime."
The president, with Phoenix-area mountains in the background, was flanked by Sen. Jon Kyl, an author of the bill; Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano; and Republican U.S. Reps. J.D. Hayworth, Trent Franks and Renzi.
Napolitano said the greatest benefit of the legislation is more federal funding, though she said it’s unclear how much Arizona will receive.
"I think Congress is not done yet," she said. "They need to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and they can’t just pass this bill and think their job is over. It’s not. But it’s a good start."
Bush and Napolitano both mentioned the need for a worker plan. Kyl said he would like to see that addressed in November or December.
But Kyl also stressed the importance of the fencing, which will be placed based on border traffic flow.
"it’s not just fence . . ."
"It’s not just fence, it’s high-tech virtual techniques plus Border Patrol and roads so the Border Patrol can be where they need to be," said Kyl, who drafted key parts of the legislation, including a provision that criminalizes construction of a tunnel across an international border.
Of fencing, Napolitano said: "Fencing to me is something you use in conjunction with other things if it’s really going to be effective," mentioning radar and lighting as key aspects.
Does illegal immigration drain the state's budget?
JACKSON, MS (WLBT) – It was the nation’s largest single site raid on undocumented workers.
And when nearly 600 workers were rounded up at Howard Industries in Laurel, it was clear that illegal immigration is no longer just an issue for border states.
"Really, we’re people looking for opportunity," said Roberto, an unauthorized immigrant who works at a Jackson construction site.
But others say, unauthorized workers are a drain on the state’s budget.
In 2006, then state-auditor Phil Bryant issued a report analyzing the costs and population trends of the state’s unauthorized immigrants, estimated to number between 35,000 and 50,000.
Now Lt. Governor, the Republican official has a strong stance on the issue.
"There’s no excuses for it. You cannot violate the law," said Bryant.
The most recent report of its kind, its most significant finding is Mississippi’s "inability to accurately quantify the costs of illegal immigrants" because most agencies don’t record citizenship status.
Still, the report estimates undocumented immigrants cost the Magnolia state million a year in health care, education, public safety, and remittance losses, but contribute million a year through sales and income tax.
That’s an estimated net cost of million each year.
And although schools and hospitals can’t ask for citizenship status, a spokesperson for the University of Mississippi Medical Center tell WLBT that nearly 1300 uninsured patients didn’t have an ID, social security card, or visa in the fiscal year 2008, costing UMC .2 million dollars.
Still, that accounts for less than 5% of all patients treated.
"I think that illegal immigrants- people who are not here legally- do pose a cost that is greater than any benefit having them here may have," said Sam Atkinson, director of the performance audit division of the state’s auditor’s office.
But Bill Chandler, of the Mississippi Immigrants Rights Alliance, claims, for every migrant worker in the U.S., one and a half more jobs are created for Americans.
"Undocumented workers or immigrants of any kind are not the reason our economy is bad," said Chandler. "We’re talking about banks on Wall Street that have created the unemployment situation."
And then there’s the controversy over whether unauthorized immigrants should be counted in the census.
"Here’s the trouble: redistricting," said Bryant. "If for example, we’re determining who gets another congressman, Mississippi lost a congressman. So if we’re saying Arizona or California is going to get a new congressman based on illegal immigrants, that’s wrong." said Bryant.
We are not here to take away any jobs or to invade their cities or countries, that we are here to live together, to work for a better country," said Velez.http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=11522743
Do you agree with this former senior CNN correspondent that illegal immigration is undermining American values?
"Illegal Hispanic immigration is undermining American values."
Illegal immigration is causing an influx of Hispanics who don’t embrace American values.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Walter-Rodgers/2010/0330/Illegal-Hispanic-immigration-is-undermining-American-values
By Walter Rodgers
March 30, 2010
Santa Barbara, Calif.
Walking the sandy beachfront in this ultra-affluent city, I chanced upon two Hispanic men rummaging through the trash. Startled at the sight, I stared momentarily. One of them yelled at me, “You look now, but in 50 years we will own all this!” Given the tsunami of illegal immigration and the prolific Hispanic birthrate, I responded, “I believe you will.”
US Census statistics suggest the scavenging man was right. California, now about 37 percent Latino, is expected to be majority Hispanic by 2042. A quarter of all Americans will probably be Latino in 40 years.
This trend has worrisome aspects. Imagine a huge, growing Hispanic underclass in America with a grudge, a burning sense of having been victimized by the “gringos.”
I witnessed this grudge up close a few years ago at Texas A&M International University in Laredo. Hispanic students challenged me, claiming any restriction of illegal immigration across the US southern border with Mexico is a violation of Latinos’ human rights.
Me: “Would you try to reenter Spain without a passport?
Students: “Of course not.”
Me: “What about France, or Britain?”
Students: “No.”
Yet many of these illegal Latino immigrants suffer the illusion they are divinely entitled to colonize the US – and not just the states bordering Mexico, but Chicago and the East Coast as well.
Some Hispanics talk openly of a reconquista, an effort to reclaim the American Southwest that once belonged to Mexico.
Historically, this concept is wide of the mark. Most Hispanic ancestors of immigrants owned no land. Their forebears were serfs of the Roman Catholic Church, once the largest landholder in Latin America and the world. Other ancestors labored as landless peons for Spanish colonial landlords who were later relieved of their lands by 19th-century Anglo-Americans.
Historical entitlement is but one of the myths surrounding illegal Hispanic immigration. Gringos have their own fables, such as ultimate assimilation into a greater English-speaking society.
Professor Lawrence Harrison of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., notes that “In California, fourth- and fifth-generation Mexican immigrants are still speaking only Spanish and resisting assimilation.” He says there are serious cultural barriers to the old melting-pot concept. “Words like compromise and dissent, crucial concepts to American democracy, have radically different meanings in Spanish.” Dissent, for example, translates into “heresy.”
Most alarming, today’s influx of poor Latin American immigrants comes from countries less than congenial to democracy, a law-based society, or public education. Many experts look with alarm on the fact that, unlike earlier European and Asian immigrants, the tsunami from the south too often undervalues educating children because many Hispanic parents resent the idea that their children will have more education than they have. In 2000, only 25 percent of working-age male Mexican immigrants had graduated high school, a sad fact that contributes to an increasingly volatile underclass.
Limited legal Latino immigration greatly enriches the United States. I’ve personally seen how Hispanic Americans bring tremendous loyalty and leadership qualities to our armed forces
But it is morally shameful to expect taxpayers to fund free education and medical care for lawbreakers so that the wealthiest Americans – restaurant owners, ranchers, agribusiness owners, and construction companies – can hire cheap labor regardless of the national consequences.
It is ever the wealthy sticking it to the poor. With so many Americans losing their homes and unable to find jobs, it is outrageous to say Hispanics still take jobs no one else will do.
Congress, which generally represents the wealthy, should begin by imposing huge fines on affluent Americans who hire illegals. Start with the millionaires in my neighborhood, who don’t mow their own lawns or baby-sit their children and instead hire immigrants who are almost certainly illegal.
Businessmen are bonkers if they think opening US borders to allow the free flow of uneducated labor will make America competitive with a burgeoning Chinese economy.
Naive American liberals need to stop trilling over Emma Lazarus’s “Give me your tired, your poor,/ Your huddled masses….” World population was 1.5 billion when she penned those lines. It now approaches 7 billion. America is not a dumping ground for the rest of the world’s surplus population.
Committing national suicide is not without precedent. The Dutch are rapidly losing their country. Before long, its largest cities will belong to Muslim immigrants.
What then becomes of the liberal tradition of Erasmus and traditional Dutch tolerance?
Illegal immigration may ultimately be more threatening to the character and values of the US than any threat from radical Islamists. It’s not about tribe; it’s about the law.
Walter Rodgers, a former senior international correspondent for CNN, writes a biweekly column.
Scott: Do I understand your argument correctly that persons from Guatemala who enter the U.S. illegally are, in fact, NOT illegal because they possess Central American Maya-Quiche blood? Ok….
What is your opinion Blunt sets state on trail of illegal immigrants?
O’FALLON, Mo. — Random state inspections of some construction sites to look for illegal immigrant workers and routine checks of the residency status of people arrested by the Missouri Highway Patrol are part of new initiatives launched by Gov. Matt Blunt.
"Illegal immigrants are openly breaking our laws," Blunt said at a news conference Tuesday at O’Fallon City Hall. "Because Washington has failed to deal with this issue, states must do even more."
The worksite inspections, by the state Department of Economic Development, will be limited to privately developed projects benefiting from state tax credits or other economic incentive programs.
Blunt said his directive also demands that such companies recertify in writing within the next 30 days that they, their contractors and subcontractors do not employ illegal immigrants. Any company discovered to be using illegal immigrants will be banned for at least five years from getting such state aid. That’s the maximum penalty allowed by state law, he said.
"With this measure and others, we will help to ensure that Missouri taxpayers are not somehow subsidizing illegal immigration," Blunt said.
Blunt came to O’Fallon to announce the economic agency’s new effort because the city has had two controversies involving allegations of illegal immigrant workers at construction projects aided by state and local bonds.
On Monday, the governor issued his separate order on arrests by the Highway Patrol. That order also applies to the Missouri Water Patrol and the state Capitol police.
Officers with those agencies have begun verifying the immigration status of every person they arrest.
Blunt also has told the three state agencies to work out an agreement with the federal government to allow officers to be deputized to directly enforce federal immigration laws and to get special training. Only six other states have such an arrangement, Blunt said.
Blunt added that he’s asking federal officials for "expedited approval" of the agreement, which would allow more than 1,000 state officers to take illegal immigrants to federal detention centers instead of having to wait for federal authorities to do so.
"This is a significant force multiplier for enforcing our immigration laws," Blunt said, noting that the state has only about 50 federal agents available for such duty.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stcharles/story/743587BA403936F186257346000EC189?OpenDocument
How do you feel Mexico is ready to file a complaint with the International fences damage environment?
Mexico has urged the US to alter its plans for expanded fences along their shared border, saying they would damage the environment and harm wildlife.
The fences threaten unique ecosystems, Mexican environment officials warned.
Mexico was ready to file a complaint with the International Court of Justice over the matter if the US did not respond, the environment minister said.
The planned barriers aim to curb illegal immigration, a highly divisive and controversial issue in the US.
The fences, planned along a possible 700 miles (1,125km) of the border, are to be equipped with hi-tech surveillance equipment, including sensors and strong lights.
"The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," Mexico’s Environment Minister Juan Rafael Elvira told a news conference.
Those areas include Baja California, Sonora and Arizona, home to one of the world’s most important desert ecosystems – the Sonora Desert.
Cactus fences
Officials said Mexico was prepared to file a complaint with the International Court of Justice but wanted to explore alternatives first.
US Army personnel install sections of the US-Mexico border fence July 2007 near Puerto Palomas Mexico. Most of the illegal immigrants enter the US via the Mexico border
A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and environmental activists from Mexico and the US said the barriers could isolate border animals into smaller groups, affecting their genetic diversity.
These include jaguars, Mexican black bears and the endangered antelope-like Sonora Pronghorn.
The use of intense lights and radar could also affect nocturnal species, they said.
The report suggested ways of minimising environmental damage, including "green corridors" of wilderness without roads.
These would allow wildlife to remain connected but not provide an easy route for people trying to cross.
Another proposal was "live" fences of cactuses, or permeable barriers to allow water, insects and pollen to cross the border.
The US Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff, has said that the fencing is needed. He has rejected arguments that the Rio Grande provides an adequate barrier as water levels in the river often drop, allowing people to wade across.
An estimated 12 million illegal immigrants are in the US, where attempts at a comprehensive overhaul of immigration law have repeatedly stalled in Congress.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6924475.stm
I’m sure the animals will adjust. The birds can fly over, the rodents and lizards can burrow under, and the rest of them will just have to make do with whatever piece of that desert they find themselves in after the fence is finished. They make it sound as if the poor things will need conjugal visits.
The fences threaten unique ecosystems,
Right. The mexican raw sewage deoes not “threaten unique ecosystems”
The hundreds of mexican trash piles in national forests located on the mexican border does not threaten unique ecosystems.
The foot trails that go through restricted wildlife areas do not threaten unique ecosystems
The border industries that have little to no pollution control do not threaten unique ecosystems.
I bet our fellow Americans can post photos of various Mexican items not threatening unique ecosystems.
But, of course, a stainless steel/galvanized steel professionally installed fencing system will cause immediate, extensive, catastrophic, irreversible harm to those very same unique ecosystems
It couldn’t be as harmful as hundreds of thousands of people throwing trash everywhere and stomping down fragile vegetation.
How do you like how Law Enforcement really works in Ga and its illegal immigrant population?
Today I want to focus on how SB529 is affecting Georgia and its illegal immigrant population. Two things I have personally noted since the new laws have gone into effect:
- Car sales are taking a hit now that illegal immigrants cannot get vehicle tags without proper identification.
- More ‘Now Hiring’ signs going up for local businesses.
Let’s see what the news media is reporting:
Rumor has it that many illegal immigrant families in Georgia are planning to leave the U.S. by December and it looks as if the new employee verification processes are starting to have an effect on the illegal immigration population.
Georgia businesses are starting to evaluate their hiring practices so they will be in compliance with SB529, and so their business does not become the next target on ICE’s hit list.
Also in Georgia, some local counties have taken illegal immigration matters into their own hands by requiring any company that bids on their construction projects to have legal employees. Gwinnett county has received a small backlash from business owners, but commissioners are downplaying the issue saying that most business owners understand the county’s decision.
Interestingly, big agricultural businesses who regularly hire illegal immigrants are having no problems with keeping a steady stream of employees. In fact, it has been nearly three weeks since SB 529 has been in effect, and there is still a surplus of illegal immigrant workers available to the industry.
Regardless, the new laws and their enforcement seem to be working, and I suspect the surplus mentioned above will start to dwindle as more illegal immigrants find it harder to obtain personal transportation.
Now, if we could just get the open borders advocates to understand that enforcing the law is neither racist, nor xenophobic, we’ll be in great shape…



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